5 new updates

5 new updates this morning. This covers new definitions to phishing filter, a problem with the sidebar, firewall issues and memory leak.

Is the current build going to evolve into RC1 thru getting updates or are we all gonna need to download another 3-4GB file and go thru the install process over? I would really like it if they slowly gave us the updates as they are avaliable.

5 new updates this morning. This covers new definitions to phishing filter, a problem with the sidebar, firewall issues and memory leak.

"Drew" wrote in message

Is the current build going to evolve into RC1 thru getting updates or are we all gonna need to download another 3-4GB file and go thru the install process over? I would really like it if they slowly gave us the updates as they are avaliable.

I am hoping it will come as a service pack or something. I don't think MS will force people to download it all again.

RC1 will be a new download.
Larry
"Drew" wrote in message

Is the current build going to evolve into RC1 thru getting updates or are we all gonna need to download another 3-4GB file and go thru the install process over? I would really like it if they slowly gave us the updates as they are avaliable.
5 new updates this morning. This covers new definitions to phishing filter, a problem with the sidebar, firewall issues and memory leak.

Oh yes they will.
"Beck" wrote in message

"Drew" wrote in message Is the current build going to evolve into RC1 thru getting updates or are we all gonna need to download another 3-4GB file and go thru the install process over? I would really like it if they slowly gave us the updates as they are avaliable.
I am hoping it will come as a service pack or something. I don't think MS will force people to download it all again.

RC1 will be a fresh distribution.
"Drew" wrote in message

Is the current build going to evolve into RC1 thru getting updates or are we all gonna need to download another 3-4GB file and go thru the install process over? I would really like it if they slowly gave us the updates as they are avaliable.
5 new updates this morning. This covers new definitions to phishing filter, a problem with the sidebar, firewall issues and memory leak.

Builds don't "evolve via updaes." They'll be giving Beta testers a build a month partly to elicit thousands of bugs they have no intention of fixing much less acknowledging and partly to shut the children in adult bodies who Beta test and think there is some progress when a new build issues no matter what has actually been done substantively to fix or improve anything with the code. If you don't want to go thru install processes simply wait until sometime in 2007 when the partially and significantly broken Vista ships For MSFT it's mainly about sticking something out there that can draw the money. Whether its good or outstanding software or not is way secondary.
CH
"Drew" wrote in message

Is the current build going to evolve into RC1 thru getting updates or are we all gonna need to download another 3-4GB file and go thru the install process over? I would really like it if they slowly gave us the updates as they are avaliable.
5 new updates this morning. This covers new definitions to phishing filter, a problem with the sidebar, firewall issues and memory leak.

Cool, just got another "helpfull member" of the maillist to test out the block user feature on...

"Chad Harris" wrote in message

Builds don't "evolve via updaes." They'll be giving Beta testers a build a month partly to elicit thousands of bugs they have no intention of fixing much less acknowledging and partly to shut the children in adult bodies who Beta test and think there is some progress when a new build issues no matter what has actually been done substantively to fix or improve anything with the code. If you don't want to go thru install processes simply wait until sometime in 2007 when the partially and significantly broken Vista ships For MSFT it's mainly about sticking something out there that can draw the money. Whether its good or outstanding software or not is way secondary.
CH
"Drew" wrote in message Is the current build going to evolve into RC1 thru getting updates or are we all gonna need to download another 3-4GB file and go thru the install process over? I would really like it if they slowly gave us the updates as they are avaliable.
5 new updates this morning. This covers new definitions to phishing filter, a problem with the sidebar, firewall issues and memory leak.

To hear them tell it Vista is itself just a consipiracy.
"Zapper" wrote in message

Cool, just got another "helpfull member" of the maillist to test out the block user feature on...

"Chad Harris" wrote in message Builds don't "evolve via updaes." They'll be giving Beta testers a build a month partly to elicit thousands of bugs they have no intention of fixing much less acknowledging and partly to shut the children in adult bodies who Beta test and think there is some progress when a new build issues no matter what has actually been done substantively to fix or improve anything with the code. If you don't want to go thru install processes simply wait until sometime in 2007 when the partially and significantly broken Vista ships For MSFT it's mainly about sticking something out there that can draw the money. Whether its good or outstanding software or not is way secondary.
CH
"Drew" wrote in message Is the current build going to evolve into RC1 thru getting updates or are we all gonna need to download another 3-4GB file and go thru the install process over? I would really like it if they slowly gave us the updates as they are avaliable.
5 new updates this morning. This covers new definitions to phishing filter, a problem with the sidebar, firewall issues and memory leak.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

Oh yes they will.

Damn them. Well I have ordered a disc. Doesn't that come with RC1?

Just check out his email address...I have been watching him post, and have not seen any usefull info yet...lots of accusations...so decided to test another part of Windows Mail ;-)
p.s. I think you missed the bottom of my post about VPC......it was an article from a Press tour in Japan that I did several years ago...for VPC 3 on Mac. The guys in the Picture with me are Kurt Schmucker, Group Program Manager for MacBU, and Paul Despe, Test Lead for VPC Windows...
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

To hear them tell it Vista is itself just a consipiracy.
"Zapper" wrote in message Cool, just got another "helpfull member" of the maillist to test out the block user feature on...

"Chad Harris" wrote in message Builds don't "evolve via updaes." They'll be giving Beta testers a build a month partly to elicit thousands of bugs they have no intention of fixing much less acknowledging and partly to shut the children in adult bodies who Beta test and think there is some progress when a new build issues no matter what has actually been done substantively to fix or improve anything with the code. If you don't want to go thru install processes simply wait until sometime in 2007 when the partially and significantly broken Vista ships For MSFT it's mainly about sticking something out there that can draw the money. Whether its good or outstanding software or not is way secondary.
CH
"Drew" wrote in message Is the current build going to evolve into RC1 thru getting updates or are we all gonna need to download another 3-4GB file and go thru the install process over? I would really like it if they slowly gave us the updates as they are avaliable.
5 new updates this morning. This covers new definitions to phishing filter, a problem with the sidebar, firewall issues and memory leak.

Why don't you go back to the Vista download page and read, if you can, and you will discover what it says! If you're not capable of comprehending what you read, then it's useless to try to explain it to you!
Beck wrote: > Damn them. Well I have ordered a disc. Doesn't that come with RC1?

"Rick" wrote in message

Why don't you go back to the Vista download page and read, if you can, and you will discover what it says! If you're not capable of comprehending what you read, then it's useless to try to explain it to you!

Thankyou for those words of wisdom but I have not been able to get into the page for several days now.

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Beck wrote:

"Rick" wrote in message Why don't you go back to the Vista download page and read, if you can, and you will discover what it says! If you're not capable of comprehending what you read, then it's useless to try to explain it to you!
Thankyou for those words of wisdom but I have not been able to get into the page for several days now.

Yes, the order page says you will automatically receive RC1.
"Beck" wrote in message

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Oh yes they will.
Damn them. Well I have ordered a disc. Doesn't that come with RC1?

"Rick" wrote in message http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/preview.mspx

Do you want to help improve Windows Vista? Windows Vista Customer Preview Program We invite you to be among the first to experience the clarity that Windows Vista can bring to your world. The Windows Vista Customer Preview Program makes a pre-release edition of Windows Vista Ultimate broadly available to the public for the first time.

Thanks, much appreciated Rick.